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October 24, 2005
Graham writes: Are you planning on doing an article on Plastic Man? With his long
history and a book being currently put out, he seems like just the kind
of subject you would have interesting things to say about.
Yes, this "question" is a thinly-veiled "write about my favorite comic
book character" request, but Plastic Man is a pretty bizarre and
interesting character, isn't he?
I've really enjoyed your column. I'm rather new to all the mainstream
DC and Marvel comics, so it's all been new information for me. Thanks
for writing!
Tipton: Yeah, Plastic Man is definitely on the list. Just haven't gotten to it yet.
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Cameron B. writes: I have been reading many of the articles you have
written for Movie Poop Shoot and I must say that I am
impressed by your encyclopedia-like knowledge of comic
books and your genuine affection for them as well.
Your series on Mark Gruenwald made me sad, as the
fellow seemed to have an understanding of what fans
want and an acute respect for the characters he wrote
about (Two concepts that don't necessarily go hand in
hand.).
I currently live in Japan and often purchase Japanese
and American comics and have noticed that the American
comic book industry is still, in some ways, trying to
ape on the success of anime in the US market (The
Darkstalkers, Livewires, and Street Fighter being the
best examples.). But I am a little puzzled that the
American publishers are only catering to what is a
popular trend in American comics instead of looking at
the Japanese model (Except in some noticeable
exceptions.). Comics in Japan are popular, I think,
not because of the big eyes or even the stories, I'll
admit this one is a bit of a stretch, but because of
the packaging. Japanese comics are almost always
published in weekly black and white anthology volumes
that run well over a hundred pages and cost around
three dollars on average. While Marvel has done
Anthology work before I don't think they did it in the
correct way. Which is this; they didn't make the
comics long enough, it wasn't cheap enough, and most
stories were either one shots or mini-series with
relatively little effect on the major books(Save for
Weapon X and some other stories.).
I might be wrong about all of this because what works
in Japan will not necessarily work in the United
States. But I would like to think that Marvel could
eliminate its excess baggage of titles not through
cancelation but by putting them all into an anthology
format. Sorry if this went on too long.
Tipton: I agree completely. Both Marvel and DC are still too caught up in the collector's mentality, and insist on expensive paper and formats, when instead they should treat comics as they were intended: inexpensive disposable entertainment for the masses. Not that the truly fine work shouldn't be collected in high-quality editions, but your average comic doesn't need a squarebound spine and glossy pages.
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Donovan H. writes: A question... what were your thoughts on the latest
storyline for the Marvel Knights Wolverine series
"Enemy of the State"? Do you think that they could've
done better? Also, what did you think about Mark
Millar's decision to kill off Northstar?
Also, love your column. It's just about the only
reason I visit MPS in the first place. :)
Tipton: I thought Millar's Wolverine has been pretty good. Better than his Spider-Man, which I'm also enjoying. Romita's art is gorgeous.
As for killing off Northstar, I'm always suspicious of writers who come in for a short-term run with a series and kill off a regular to just to get some attention for themselves. Seems like the lazy way to get some cheap pathos, without earning it by doing the work yourself. The writer is taking emotional advantage of the work of other writers, and leaving nothing for future writers to utilize. Seems selfish to me. If a writer is on a book for a long time, a couple years or so, then you've earned it. But doing it in your first couple months? Bad form.
Of course, since in this case Millar swiftly resurrected him (and really, we both should have seen that coming) the question is moot.
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Brian S. writes: First, let me kiss your ass a little. Your column (and letter answering on Mondays) is one of the highlights of my Wednesdays, other than new comics of course. I've been coming to the site for about 2 years now and I'm proud to say I've read every column you've done. I even recommend you to my friends who want to learn more about comics. ANYWAY, 2 things are on my mind and I want to ask you, the Comic Guru, what the dilly-o?
1) How are liking (or not) Garth Ennis' latest take on Marvel's sociopath in residence, The Punisher? Truthfully, I love it and I think I might read a nutritional information label if Garth Ennis wrote it. He's the only writer in the last 10 years (in my estimation) that has really put a mark on the character without resorting to horrible gimmicks. Anyhoo, you likey?
2) Where the hell did Tom Peyer go? I loved this guy's work so damn much I asked him serious questions about Snapper Carr at a comic con panel. Dude made me care about Snapper goddamn Carr. Back to the point. I was digging out all of my MK Punishers and I found a 3 or 4 issue he did during that run. It was pretty good, and it completely fit the goofy tone that Ennis had set for it. This prompted me to dig out my entire run of the sorely missed Hourman (probably the most upset I've ever been with a comic being cancelled), which Peyer wrote. I remember he was on Legion of Superheroes a few years back, and he did a comic in our mutual hometown's (Syracuse, NY) alternative newspaper around the same time. What's he been doing? I really was (and am) into his work.
Tipton: I loved Ennis' first 12-issue PUNISHER mini, and still kind of think of it as the definitive statement on the character. The more recent MAX series by Ennis seems to have lost all the black humor, and feels a little too grim for me, so I've lost interest. But that first couple years of Ennis Punisher was magic.
I don't know what Peyer's been doing lately. I agree, he's one of the more underrated talents, and that HOURMAN series with Rags Morales was top-notch.
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Johnny K. writes: Love your columns and I read them every week. Thanks to you, I've been reading The Golden Age, JSA, DC: The New Frontier and Squadron Supreme
and loving them.
I have some questions though:
1) Have you read JSA: The Liberty File? I thought it was great, but I
was wondering if the two guys in Egypt (the skinny guy with the
glasses and the hairy guy with the basket of cannonballs around his
neck) are supposed to be anyone, like how Jack the Grin was the Joker
and The Clock is Hourman and so on.
2) Did Curt Swan do any other series besides Superman? After Whatever
Happened to the Man of Tomorrow I was impressed with his penciling
work.
3) Ever consider doing an Usagi Yojimbo column? Or a column on Alan
Moore's series, such as Supreme or 1963 or his America's Best Comics
work? Or a Bone column?
Thanks in advance!
Tipton: The JSA: LIBERTY FILES series were both very good. I haven't read them in a while so I don't remember the characters you mention off the top of my head. I'll go back and take a look.
Swan is primarily known for his 20 years-plus on Superman, which many people still today consider the definitive version. He also did the occasional outside book like LEGION or STAR TREK, but his output was primarily SUPERMAN for his entire DC tenure.
Usagi, I haven't done enough reading on, but Moore's SUPREME and the ABC books and BONE are all on my to-do list.
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Matthew P. writes: So i understand that it's too late to reverse the ruling, but I'd like to
cry foul on question 13 [of the first COMICS 101 Pop Quiz]. You said that all the answers could be found within the comic101 archives. But nowhere in those archives do you mention Aquaman being married to Mera - in fact her name never appears in your
archives. Therefore, you broke one of your own rules (and I'm pissed,
because I had everyone else for that question).
So like I said, I understand you can't change the winners now, and I'm not
harboring a grudge, but the next time you do this, please check to make
sure you CAN find everything on the site.
Tipton: Au contraire: In the following column:
http://moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/75.html
A reference is made to the "girlfriends and spouses" of the JLA, with the accompanying image, and since Jean is referred to as a "girlfriend," and Hawkman and Hawkgirl are known to be married, one could deduce through the process of elimination that Aquaman was married, since Snapper and Wonder Woman had never married their respective love interests, yet "spouses," in the plural, was said.
It's a reach, I know, but no one said it would be easy.
And in your case, since you also missed the MODOK question, even if I credited that point and gave you the score of 24, your time was still longer than the four winning entries.
Trust me, Matthew, I bent over backwards in grading these to be completely fair, and if the JLA question had caused anyone to lose by itself, I would've tossed it out.
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Trevor C. writes: So, how many comics you got? Could you tell me a guess in actual issues and long boxes?
Also, the Demon, Etrigan is he Jason Blood possessed by Etrigan or the other way around?
Tipton: Never counted. Three wall-length bookcases, plus a dozen or so longboxes in storage. And that's not counting trades and hardcovers.
Yes, Blood is possessed by Etrigan.
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Jack C. writes: Loving the JLA articles, and highly anticipating your treatment of the
Perez run that first got me into comic collecting.
All those panels by Dick Dillin remind me of the first obituary I
think I ever read, in which his son or daughter wrote about how Dillin
always made the men handsome and the women beautiful. It is pretty
solid work--not spectacular but never a let down, either.
Anyway, I don't think I wrote to tell you how much I liked your
profile of Mark Gruenwald and I hope you'll take on more creator
oriented pieces. Some, like Will Eisner, Dave Sim or Jeff Smith are
completely tied to their creations (and how could you write about
Cerebus without mentioning the crazy Aardvark Comment columns
[actually, that used to be my favorite letters page to read with
Mickey Dupree, Mike Bannon and other weirdos writing to Dave
regularly. It all went downhill the day Connie Lingus was
published]).
But there are others, like George Perez, Keith Giffen, Len Wein, et
al. who don't get their own section in comic stores like Gaiman or
Moore, but who would always light up a title for a few years before
moving on.
And of course, there's the Legion of Superheroes, a series that drew
writers from their fanzines--I seem to recall that's how Jim Shooter
got his first professional job in comics--and kept Paul Levitz busy
for years and years. In my memory Levitz was the first to do single
character focuses in a team book, a format that predated The Watchmen
and Geoff Johns' Flash's Rogue's Gallery stories.
Okay sorry for the rambling. You seem to have quite a reference
library of fanzines and editorial work that tells a lot of the
backstory of how these comics were created and I'd love to learn more.
Tipton: I know I've been promising more creator profiles. Definitely going to try to get to it.
Dillin never got the acclaim he deserved. It's like the fact that the work arrived so steadily blinded people to how good it was.
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Andy B. writes: Great column as always. I've been catching up w/ the current JSA title and read the 3 parter involving the return of the Spirit King. When they
explained the events of JLA 172 I was surprised. This had never come across
my radar b4. Johns deftly used that old issue to play out some real emotion
felt by Jay Garrick. I also picked up America vs. the Justice Society and
have been enjoying it. I think DC had some real potential w/ earth-2. They
were able to tell stories where the status quo was allowed to change.
Batman grows old, has kids, ect. Good stuff.
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Gary S. writes: Wow, the League was crawling w/ married men I forgot
about! I think I must have blanked them out somehow
-- maybe b/c I'm married & could never get away w/
saying "bye honey, I'm off to do my superhero thing."
Anyway, thanks for the e-mail on that & the Hellfire
club item. As mentioned previously, I greatly enjoy
the column, & appreciate the correspondence as well.
By the way, on a totally separate note, what do you
think of WB's animated "The Batman"? I think I've
seen it 3 times only, but liked it pretty well 2X (&
hated one episode where the villain was some kind of
living puppet dude).
Tipton: Not a big fan of the new BATMAN cartoon. I could live with the awful redesigns if the scripts were solid, but they're not. Feels very much dumbed down for kids. Which is stupid, because kids are much smarter than TV executives like to think, and when you give them an intelligent show, they'll watch it.
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James F. writes: Not to sound like a prude or anything, but in you're latest column you
talk about the JLA dealing with the Seven Soldiers of Victory and I
was just wondering, are there two Green Arrows? Since you said Green
Arrow and Speedy were part of the Seven Soldiers but Green Arrow is
obviously with the JLA, both are even in the one group shot. Being a
Green Arrow fan, I'm curious as to what the hell is up with that?
Tipton: Yep. The Green Arrow in the Seven Soldiers of Victory, like all of the Soldiers, was from Earth-2. After the CRISIS, the Seven Soldiers history was rewritten, with Green Arrow and Speedy being replaced by the Crimson Avenger's sidekick Wing and the Vigilante's sidekick Stuff.
Marty P. writes: Love the site, read it every day, etc. There is something majorly cool to check out on the Arrested Development season 2 DVD set. On disc 3, watch the gag reel. Most of it is standard stuff, but at the very end, David Cross has this rant where he basically assigns blame to the Fox marketing department for the fact that AD, a very smart, funny, and addictive show, is watched by so few people. Very cool that they included it, and makes me wonder if it was tacked on there to raise a middle finger of sorts to the network.
Ryall: Or maybe they included it as a middle finger to Cross, who last season was telling people during his stand-up shows that AD was definitely cancelled and wouldn’t be back this season. Happily, they proved him wrong. And for a similar comment on the same thing:
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James E. writes: I bought Arrested Development season 2 on DVD and I think you should check out the blooper reel on Disc #3. Apparently we are not the only ones who think that Fox is screwing over the show by not trying to draw more viewers to it. At the end of the blooper real there is a scene with Jeffrey Tambor and David Cross in the attic and David is in his Mrs. Featherbottom costume. And David says the following: "I've got an idea for what you can do, why don't you fucking fire your complete marketing team and get a new one there that knows how to market a show that won five motherfucking emmys, golden globes, SAG awards, WGA awards, DVA awards, Producers Guild Awards, critic's top 10 list; you know if you can't fucking market that kind of show and get better ratings then maybe the problem doesn't lie here maybe it lies with marketing."
I also remember you requesting mail shoot readers for how to get the internet version of Fiona Apple's Extraordinary Machine. So I was wondering what did you think of the finished album compared to what got leaked.
Ryall: I do like the new disc better, only because some of Jon Brion's production work was just so overwhelming in places. I read a review of the original disc that said some of his stuff made it sound like Fiona was trapped in a circus calliope, and I tend to agree--the new tunes aren't all that different, but they do focus on her voice a bit more, which is nice.
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Richard S. writes: What? Are you kidding? Cousin Oliver Bluth is EXACTLY the sort of thing that the Arrested Development crew would do, if only for the fact that only 10 people in the audience would get it. And they would probably go to extreme lengths to get Robbie Rist to play the part. Heck, I'm surprised they haven't figured out a way to get someone jumping over a shark. Gob, anyone?
In fact, now that you've brought it up, I'm almost positive they'll try the Cousin Oliver angle. That's if they last past Thanksgiving.
P.S. I base this in part on all the 60s sitcom in-jokes they throw in. Ron Howard's voiceover explaining how they would never, ever, make fun of Andy Griffith? Priceless.
Ryall: Yeah, Howard’s more interactive and jokey voiceover is just one more reason why the show gets funnier and funnier. For those who’re still watching.
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Paulus writes re: a fellow reader's comment on ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT:
I can't quite figure out what the producers were thinking regarding the direction of this season. The show barely got renewed, for God's sake. And yet, each and every episode requires you to have seen every other episode in order to get all the jokes.
Couldn’t disagree more…
They jumped straight in with season 2 here, even ran them in the wrong order and every episode still shines.
Each show has enough stand alone humour to be very entertaining… I am officially hooked.
It's just so fantastically absurd.
This week's show [airing in Thailand] was 'the office party'. Just so great... having the uncle/neice and aunt/nephew singing "afternoon delight" on the karaoke ... only for it to be another set-up for the later gag about 'afternoon delight' ganja…
"Uncle Oscar, how about you giving mum some 'afternoon delight'?" Uncle Oscar: "How will I slip to her? I know, I'll stick it in her brownie"
I was laughing my arse off... still am.
Ryall: Then you’re in for a pleasant surprise when Season 3 reaches your shore, since they’ve only gotten more and more risqué this year. “VolVO” is this season’s “Get rid of the Seaward” from episodes past.
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Tom A. writes:
About the format? It's your piece, man, if you write it, they will
read.....(and write nasty e-mails telling you they don't like it, and
drive up your stress level, and raise your blood pressure untill your head
explodes, and Tipton is left to clean up the mess. But I digress.....)
Have you reall read Anthony Bourdain's book? It's ok, you can tell me, I
won't tell a soul!
Ryall: But of course—would I ever talk about something I haven’t read or watched? Nahhh, I’d… never… do that. Nope, not me.
The wife read the book and gave me a book report on it, so I feel like I read it.
"INCONCEIVABLE -- 10 PM, NBC
There's a "stillborn" joke in here somewhere, since the show's already
been cancelled, but someone "stillborn" and "joke" never quite seem
palatable when paired up"
"I do not think that word means what you think it means!"
What happened to the guy who growled "Get. Off. My. Plane!"? Because that
Harrison Ford hasn't been seen for years now.
Word!
24 -- 8 PM, WGN
Wanna see Jack Bauer remove a guy's head with a hacksaw all over again?
WGN is airing back-to-back episodes of the first season now, for those of
you who're dying to relive the magic of the bear trap/amnesia plot twist.
Nothing beats the Mountian Lion from Season two. (Jack's daughter was
mercifuly absent from season 4, and the world is a better place for it.
Ok, I'm done. Thanks for listening.
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Joseph A. writes:
Glad you mentioned how "no one wins" hearing Tim McCarver talk. He and Joe
Buck, to me, are the kings of hyperbole when it comes to sportscasting.
Everything's the "greatest" this or the "most amazing" that.
My favorite anti-Tim McCarver moment was Deion Sanders dousing him with
champagne in 1992 when the Braves upset the Pirates to go to the World
Series after McCarver constantly dogged the Braves during the entire 7-game
series.
Ryall: Yeah, that’s also my favorite, which means “only” McCarver moment.
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Eddie C. writes: Lame sitcom? I actually like "Kitchen Confidential." Good cast, thought it had promise. Sorry to see it go (I understand its being cancelled).
I disagree with dragging out the mysteries on "Lost." I'd rather be disappointed than see the show take the same wrong turn "The X-Files" did, by making the conspiracy all too convoluted with half-assed answers that only led to more questions(after a while I just didn't care). I don't mind more mysteries popping up (strength of the show), but I hope there are some concrete answers in there somewhere.
Ryall: The X-FILES example’s a good one—any answers that show gave were a disappointment. So I say screw giving us answers, just keep making the mystery intriguing and delay the inevitable letdown as long as possible.
I do agree with your assessment of Tim McCarver. Has to be the most annoying baseball announcer ever. And I hate all the theatrics on FOX. Just play the damn game.
David A. writes: David A. writes: Hello, Mr.Ryall. I just had to express my excitement about your upcoming adaptation of Clive Barker's excellent novel THE GREAT AND SECRET SHOW. It is my favorite novel of all time, and since I'm a big fan of IDW comics, I couldn't have been happier to read that you are doing a 12-part adaptation of that book! IDW did a great job on THE THIEF OF ALWAYS graphic novel, and this is now my most anticipated comic. EVERVILLE is also a good continuation of the Art mythos and introduces my favorite Barker character, Harry D'Amour, who also has a cameo at the end of TGASS. The fact that you are planning another D'Amour comic with THE SCARLET GOSPELS is even better news. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for doing more comics with Mr. Barker and to wish you well with this endeavor.
Ryall: Thanks a lot for the note. Although... you've just added a layer of pressure to me that I wasn't feeling before. It's easy to think I'm doing this stuff just for me or whatever, but now, when it really sinks in that this book is some people's favorite novel, it just tells me even more that I better not screw up. I know how closely I scrutinized the TV miniseries of Stephen King's IT, my favorite book at the time, and how let down I was by the end (come to think of it, the end of the book was a bit of a letdown compared to the rest, too, but I digress).
So I'll just have to be that much more on my game to make sure I do right by you and everyone else with this one.
Clive recently sent me EVERVILLE, too, and while I'm dying to see where it all goes, I'm trying not to start on it until this is all done. I don't want any further revelations about the Art to color the way I approach it in the one.
And yeah, what I've read of Harry D'amour so far, he's a great character.
Thanks a lot, man--really hope you like the book when it gets here (and the columns until then).
David replies: Hey, Chris. I think you are approaching the mythos in exactly the right way. I've read both books so many times that they have kind of merged together into one story in my mind. Right now, setting your sights on one adaptation about memory, prophecy, fantasy, the subconscious, evolution and creation is going to be more than enough before you take a gander at EVERVILLE! I've read the first book of the Art at least ten times, so if you need any help just let me know. Just kidding, I know you are going to do a great job and I can't wait to see the artist's vision of Quiddity. I'll be watching the Previews catalog to order it, and I look forward to your future columns.
ET: The Extra-Lame Atari Game
David W. writes: Dude, good show on the Atari ET screengrab that accompanies the article about Spielberg teaming with EA to create some titles. It brought back some good memories of a young Dave slamming down the joystick and jerking the cartridge out of the machine in frustration. Good work, friend.
Ryall: Now I'm waiting for official word on INDIANA JONES IV so I can run a screen-grab from the RAIDERS Atari game, too. Although... I kinda liked that one...
Loki Here
"Loki" writes: If you could, I would really appreciate it if you could foward this email to Kevin Smith. Please, if you could, let him know that Larry aka Loki (the real deal) is the writer. I owe him this thank you. We have met in the past, please feel free to send an email to [deleted] with questions that only the real Loki could confirm.
Ryall: I sent you the same questions they gave George Burns' character in OH, GOD and haven't heard a thing back from you, you faker.
Thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart for writing the movie Dogma for me. Last night, I began to understand what exactly you had done for me. I wish I could have done more for you. Because of you, I now look forward to having an eternity with my soulmate, Mitch Albom. You brilliant artistic perspective was very supportive, and I owe you beyond the limitations of this world. I will not and cannot forget what you have done for me. Please, accept my thank you as a thoughtfull and sincere gesture of love.
As the tears of happiness rolled down my face, a few tears of remorse slipped in. The tears of sadness and regret are for that day you came to my house and I was outright rude. No excuses, no apologies (I do remember you saying you didn't want me to get hit while I wrote this) I should have at least tried to help you. Hindsight is 20/20, and lately, that's all I have been seeing. And you know what, that day I shouldn't have been so suspicious. Man, I should have at least let you in to my home. You helped me out, I should have at least tried, in return to help you. Also, there was no excuse for my behavior at the mall when you and Matt Damon were having a night out. My manners are something I have been trying to work on, but I should have treated you both more respectfully.
I know all you really want to know is why, and I have been working hard on that one. Lately I have began to doubt if I will ever know why, at least down here, but I keep on going. Kevin, of all the people I have helped, you deserve to know why. But since I don't have that, thank you.
God, thank you doesn't seem like enough. You!, you helped me figure out my life man, and you did it for damn near free. Forget the money, you did it. And we both thank you, Loki and Sygon from deep within our hearts.
I really feel like I'm repeating myself with the thank you, but what you have done for me has brought me to tears. Thank you, I hope you recieve some of the hugs, if not all, that I have been trying to send you recently.
God bless, good luck, and with much much love for you.
Ryall: I'm happy about two things here--that I don't have to reply to this since it wasn't addressed to me, and that I was able to work in an OH, GOD reference. Too few of those nowadays, and John Denver's acting legacy deserves better.
Fight or FLIGHT
Mike B. writes: I been readin articles over here at the poop for years (ask Tipton, i email him about every other week or so) and I never felt the need to reply to one of yours before now.
Me, I haven;t yet seen Flightplan, and honestly don't plan to any time soon. Just looks boring. Just my opinion, for me, its not the type of movie I think i would enjoy, nothing against the actors or whatever. I'm sures it a cool flick.
Anyways, having never seen it and not needing to, I think that the charges brought against the film by these union reps has to be the stupidest in an ever lengthening list of stupid accusations/lawsuits/defamation charges. I mean, give me a break. To quote Affleck in his Jay & Silent Bob cameo, "They're not talking about you, they're talking about fictional characters, FICTIONAL CHARACTERS!" Chrissake, just because they're flight attendants they have to be perfect characters? And they can;t be the bad guys? Why? Because of the attacks on 9/11?
I knew people who died in those buildings, and I am friends with soldiers overseas as we speak, I have been to more marine corps funerals then I care to recount. You know what? Sometimes ANYONE can be the bad guy. Priests, military officers, cops, Barney the fucking dinosaur, and dare I say it? Flight attendants!!! Its a work of fiction, it isn't real, thats whats great about movies, anything is possible because they are unbound by the laws of reality.
I am also insulted that they would bring up 9/11 as a reason to justify their idiotic accusation. Something that happened to other people does not justify telling people that they have to automatically trust and respect a group of people just because their job is dangerous. Police work is dangerous. Fire fighting is dangerous. Being a soldier is dangerous. But not every cop deserves your trust, and not every soldier deserves respect. It is something that is earned.
Flightplan may not be my type of movie, but I am tempted to un-boycott it, just to show these people making these ridiculous claims that it is stupid to start fights over something so stupid and pointless.
Ryall: I just want to know how these overly sensitive flight attendants were able to stay quiet after VIEW FROM THE TOP.
Help! I Need Somebody
JJ writes: Hey! I have been searching everywhere for this movie, but I can't find it because I don't know the title!! I've talked to movie buffs all around and they know what movie I'm talking about but they can't remember the name of it either!! I'm trusting you, the expert of all experts, to help me out with this one...
I think this movie was made in the early 80's and the time I saw it was on HBO.
The movie is about a young boy who gets caught making out with a gypsy girls daughter and she puts a curse on him so where in the future when he makes out with a girl he likes and possibly wants to marry, that he turns into a demon. The other part of the curse is that the girl that he wants gets the demon Lord to take her away and he has to kill the demon Lord and the closest person to him also turns into a demon. He thinks that the curse gets passed on to a girl he knew but instead it was passed onto a black gentleman that he consulted. I think he used a demon slayer (sword) which he stole out of a store to kill the demon.
Please help....I've been looking for this movie forever!!!
Ryall: No clue, myself. Anyone?
UPDATE:
Hamid S. writes in with the necessary help:
Regarding JJ's plea: I think he is looking for "My Demon Lover", starring Scott Valentine (Mallory's boyfriend on "Family Ties").
http://imdb.com/title/tt0093589/
The sad thing is I knew this IMMEDIATELY, without having to go to imdb. I am not sure what that says about me or what I know about film.
Ryall: Also, there's this:
Cameron D. writes: Big fan of the site of course, yadda yadda yadda, you know the drill. Anyway there was an email in the latest mail bag from someone who was trying to remember the name of a movie they liked. Well I just wanted to point out a website that is about this very same problem:
http://www.whatwasthatmovie.com
Pretty damn useful. You send in what you remember about the movie and other readers try and identify it. Lots of Kevin Smith fans there too. I saw the plug on NewsAskew a few weeks back.
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